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Anyone here like blackgaze (shoegaze black metal) or DSBM(depressive suicidal black metal)?

Anyone here like blackgaze (shoegaze black metal) or DSBM(depressive suicidal black metal)?

WinterFrostBittenSoul Created Nov 7, 2015 10:06
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I personally am a HUGE fan of both. I think they are the most beautiful musical genres in the world! I particularly like Alcest, Lantlôs, Elderwind, Skyforest, When Mine Eyes Blacken, Wedard, Photophobia,Lustre, Trist, Hypothermia, Silencer, Nae'Blis, Total Negation, Desolate Oasis, Voss Mohr, ColdWorld, and Xasthur.
Anyone else? DSBM or Blackgaze? Why and which bands?

 

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Deleted User

Nov 7, 2015 20:49

What's the difference, thee amount of makeup they use?
It's all the same one boring thrash (which is early 80s Hard Core Punk, I swear, look it - making it a three and a half decade old song...) tune with really stupid 'vocals' out of some Horror Movie...

That and it's bastard offshoot, screamo, plus B-Boy have to be the worst genres of 'music' (and I use that term exceedingly lightly) ever... I hate to see what music evolves into next.

Thank goodness I'm old enough to have heard the last of the good stuff...

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Nov 9, 2015 23:10

If you haven't heard Fen, then you need to, pronto!
Mortifera are also good.

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Deleted User

Nov 13, 2015 09:07

I didn't even know that those WHERE genres.... sounds more like goth make-up titles to me

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Deleted User

Nov 13, 2015 17:04

Burzum, Forgotten Woods, Bethlehem and Strid

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Deleted User

Nov 13, 2015 23:13

Talking about Forgotten Woods, you should listen to Joyless, they fit the description perfectly!

Jack of all Trades

Nov 14, 2015 01:10

What's so great about depressing music? Nothing wrong with emotions and feelings while listening to music, but I don't see depressing as a good thing...

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Nov 14, 2015 12:21

It depends how it's conveyed, there are certain bands I won't touch, such as "Make a Change, Kill Yourself" and a few others.
I'm not really bothered by the 'suicidal genre', but there are 'depressive' bands who have such a good atmosphere, in fact, said bands have probably been incorrectly labelled.

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Deleted User

Nov 15, 2015 00:27

"depressive suicidal black metal"? isn't black metal nutless and foofy enough as is?

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Deleted User

Nov 15, 2015 03:42

If it isn't punk, it's not right....
Nuff said

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Deleted User

Nov 16, 2015 04:30

I blame the following on Qarya. His words inspired some looking for some images, and so...

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Nov 16, 2015 04:34


I thought this was fake. It's not. Some thrash/crossover one person band.
But I foundeded it looking up this Blackgaze crap...

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Deleted User

Nov 16, 2015 04:36

Ooops. Shoulda shrunk that, sorry. Forgot the size.
Oh, and I looked it up on YouTube. Sucks major wang.

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Nov 16, 2015 04:39

This image lead to the following article, which is precious....


Black Ivory Tower

Blackgaze does not exist

January 18, 2013 by degtyarov in article and tagged article, blackgaze, die, f**k off

With the above-average prevalence of autism in the metal scene in mind, it is hardly a challenge to explain metalheads’ tendency to classify every last metal band into the most obscure subgenres. Instead of accepting that some bands may have a somewhat unique style, the most ridiculous terms are called into life to categorise every type of music that even has as much as an electric guitar in it. Perhaps this is the only way for them to keep things organised and safe – who’s to tell what one of these loners might do when their brains are overloaded from thinking too much, after all. This is why, for as long as metal has existed, meaningless labels have been put on albums and even entire bands, such as ‘epic metal’ (power metal), ‘symphonic metal’ (metal bands that have the budget to replace their Casio keyboards with actual orchestras) and ‘fantasy metal’ (power metal for people who are confused about their sexual orientation). This process becomes even more convoluted when adjectives are being thrown around, as to imply a non-existent distinction: ‘melodic black metal’ (nearly all black metal is melodic), ‘depressive black metal’ (black metal is seldomly happy, and since when was a general mood sufficient to distinguish an entire genre?) and ‘blackened death metal’ (an umbrella term for terribad bands from Paris that make you wish the entire Île-de-France would just sink into the ground).

Then comes ‘blackgaze’. This latest product of the unkillable desire to invent new genres for bands that play their instruments slightly differently, has only appeared very recently. The term for a somewhat moody, atmospheric style of black metal from the European underground only started gaining prominence in 2011 and 2012, which unfortunately doesn’t prevent its advocates from retrospectively applying it to just about every post-punk/post-rock-inspired band they can get their greasy fingers on. The word itself is a combination of ‘black metal’ and ‘shoegaze’, the latter being a sort of dream-like rock that, like black metal, distances itself from the usual pop structures.

Now, I generally don’t care much for genre debates, but in the particular case of ‘blackgaze’, what bothers me is not the false musical distinction the people who use the term try to establish, but rather the ideas that have led to the invention of this bastardised pseudo-style. Blackgaze is, first and foremost, a term born out of non-musical motives. Black metal, at its core, is a rancid, unattractive music style that is known for its inaccessibility. A new image, more artistic and pretentious in nature, was thus necessary to make it attractive for beanie-wearing skaterb0is who, after having gotten over Blink 182, needed a new soundtrack for when they waited in line at the AppleStore. Blackgaze and Montessori-bands such as Wolves in the Throne Room experienced their finest hour. The hype will die out, however, and these people will hop on the next big trend soon enough, undoubtedly breaking their horn-rimmed-glasses-wearing skulls over making up new genres once more. Surely they will claim to have ‘grown out of’ blackgaze and exclusively listen to genres that are decorated with the prefix ‘post-‘. At least, if they’re not too busy furiously shoving Spaghettios up their snatch.


Naturally, there are still distinctions to be identified within genres, for example between bands from a certain geographical or historical context. Black metal from Auvergne, for instance, is different from Parisian black metal (coughinthat*tsbettercough). But that should not lead to some imaginary distinction between ‘Melodic Mediaeval Auvergnised Black Metal’ and ‘XXXtreme Parisian Death Black Awezum Metal 4 Cool Kidz’. ‘Blackgaze’ is a fad word that only has to do with image. As such, the listening to and, if necessary, categorisation of music can henceforth best be left to individuals who have more firing neurons in their brains than empty bags of Cheetos in their pantry. I wish the rest of you the best of luck with sodding the f**k off.

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Nov 16, 2015 04:41


"It's not metal, it's blackgaze" - caption

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Deleted User

Nov 16, 2015 04:50

We're almost done now. Sorry the B&W Picard facepalm came out way big also.
There was more to the article, basically specifics regarding various bands and how they fit it and the evolution of and all that crap...
I just put in the basic generalized stuff. Total gem. Total wit. Total Pulitzer worthy.

Here's a link for all y'all blackgauzers for your perusaling pleasure. (As if...)

http://blackivorytower.com/2013/01/18/blackgaze-does-not-exist/

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Deleted User

Nov 16, 2015 04:52

" If it isn't punk, it's not right....
Nuff said "

I most humbly doth agreeeth, Verdelet....

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Nov 16, 2015 12:32



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Deleted User

Nov 16, 2015 17:19

Poor fella, if only he could dab on some blackGLAZE to express his inner sadness...

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Nov 16, 2015 17:26

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Nov 16, 2015 17:36

^ That one ain't working, so......

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Deleted User

Nov 16, 2015 17:44

I thought you'd like it....
Here's another for my emo depressed black metal satanic rebels

Now that's Hard Core!

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Deleted User

Nov 16, 2015 18:53

HAHA

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Nov 16, 2015 19:08


Stop Stone Cold! I'm gonna fart on you!

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Deleted User

Nov 27, 2015 08:52

Gris! Nuff said

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Deleted User

Nov 27, 2015 08:53

DSBM has very lil to do with BM.

Jack of all Trades

Nov 27, 2015 16:04

Some of them work hard in a normal environment. Somewhat.

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Nov 28, 2015 01:43

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Nov 28, 2015 01:48

YUP! IT'S TRUE! THOSE GUYS ARE REAL MEANY PANTS!
WHENEVER I GIVE IT A LISTEN, I HAVE TO WEAR DIAPERS AND TAKE MASSIVE DOSES OF SEDATIVES...
I'M THE SCARIEST CHUMP ON THE BLOCK!

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Nov 28, 2015 01:48

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Nov 28, 2015 01:49

OOOOOOHHHHH,, SCARY, KIDS,, SCARY....

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Nov 28, 2015 02:23

Don Quixote!!

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Deleted User

Nov 29, 2015 18:49

Contra Ignem Fatuum!

dsbmnihilism

Dec 22, 2015 05:59

To the complete moron bitching about corpsepaint, go comment on a genre you actually know something about. Because I don't know of very many dsbm bands that use corpsepaint. Perhaps you're thinking of second wave black metal.

I listen to a lot of obscure bands from all around the world. Some of my favorite dsbm bands are Lamuria Abissal, Kanashimi, Ekove Efrits, Sombre Tears, Cheerful Depression, Death Diaries, Trist, Life is Pain, Austere, Cry, Eternal Misery, Photophobia, Hanging Garden, Happy Days, Unjoy, Valefor, Lyrinx. I tried to list them in a best to worst order but there's a lot of overlap.

I don't listen to much blackgaze but Harakiri For the Sky has some good songs.

Currently my favorite bands are a post-black metal subgenre known as Narcotic Metal/Depressive Rock. Mostly bands from Sweden, Apati, Ofdrykkja, Vanhelga, Psychonaut 4.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBrS09zxABCqF3J4SXs_r4lziMcbssmPa

dsbmnihilism

Dec 22, 2015 06:01

Also I am extremely embarrassed at what this thread has become... Most people are naming regular black metal bands that have nothing to do with dsbm or are just spamming random pictures that also have nothing to do with dsbm.

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Deleted User

Dec 22, 2015 09:55

What you should be embarrassed about is the butthurt swarming out of your irritated bowels.

Get over yourself and your 'that's second gen corpsepaint, not third' blah blah blahing because you sound like a way too much in need of a real hobby to bide your totally useless time away whiny assed bitch...

Because remember, If it walks like a duck,
And it quacks like a duck...
Then it's a helluva lot better than this crap...

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Dec 22, 2015 10:04

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Dec 22, 2015 10:10

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Dec 22, 2015 10:41

I don't think I need to guess who the moron is.....

Holy f**k! You're into Ekove Efrits!! I've been into them for years, I have one of the demos aswell as the later stuff!

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Deleted User

Dec 22, 2015 14:53

Don't strain the ol' troll noggin there, genius...
Given that the bitching about said corpse paint is above in this thread for all to read...

Obviously you're just on the same level of astuteness as the other befuddled welp who didn't get that the meme ridiculing this ObtusiveConstipatedDisorder silliness is a meme ridiculing this ObtusiveConstipatedDisorder silliness....

Just in case ya missed it tha first time...

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Deleted User

Dec 22, 2015 14:55

Yabba dabba ding dong,
ding dong...

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Deleted User

Dec 22, 2015 23:00

That's it. I'm forming a new Garage Band.

Black Myrtle and the Baphomutts.

Who wants to play kazoo?

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Deleted User

Dec 22, 2015 23:04

Gimme that kazoo

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Deleted User

Dec 22, 2015 23:24

It was yours all along, Mr. Razor. All you needed to do was click your heels and blow ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28S0csmLbNM

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Deleted User

Dec 22, 2015 23:38

f**king ***** nunchakus, how creative

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Deleted User

Dec 22, 2015 23:40

That's just how I roll, motherf**ker.

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Deleted User

Dec 22, 2015 23:51

Now that you've said roll, I just wanna push something or someone down a hill.

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Deleted User

Dec 22, 2015 23:55

There are times my mind is read...
Then there are times my mind is read between the lines...

And something else is thrown in as a bonus...

wamma lamma damma my ling long,
ling long...

 

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